Paula: [00:00:00] Hello everyone and welcome to yet another episode of Chatting with the Experts where I, Paula Okonneh, the host, speak mainly with women from Africa, from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora. On some occasions I make exceptions, and today is one of those days. My guest today is a man. I’ll tell you a bit about him. Reverend Emmanuel is a married man who is a pastor. He’s a teacher, and he’s also an entrepreneur. He is a teacher by the grace and the spirit of understanding that rests upon him. He heads a church in Ghana of about a hundred people, and he also runs a residential discipleship school that’s not just a Bible school. [00:01:00] But a Bible school and more because there’s practical life training that goes on there. Our title of this show is Wisdom for Our Times, and he says The Great Omission in the Great Commission is Discipleship. And so with that, I welcome Reverend Emmanuel Anatsui to Chatting with the Experts.
Rev Emmanuel: Hi Paula.
Paula: Hello. I’m always so blessed when I have a man come on the show because that adds variety and makes things a bit different and…
Rev Emmanuel: Mm-hmm.
Paula: What is even blessing me even more is the title for the show Wisdom for Our Time.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes.
Paula: So let’s talk a little bit about that, because I love this. The Great Omission in the Great Commission is Discipleship. [00:02:00] What do you mean by that?
Rev Emmanuel: Well, yes. Today, as we all would admit, we are surrounded with so many problems, both socially and spiritually.
Paula: Yeah.
Rev Emmanuel: And I believe that I think I’ll quote, is it Mike Murdock who says that? All the world’s problem is a wisdom problem. And so once you get the wisdom about it, the problem gets solved. And so I believe that with all the problems that we are seeing around us, it is all because we lack a wisdom and so I believe what we are going to be talking and receiving today is setting keys that will help us so we stone for the times we leaving so that we can actually be able to address some of the things that seemingly we are not finding our way around. So that is what the title is all about. Wisdom For Our Times. [00:03:00]
Paula: I love it. I love it. So now we talk about wisdom for our times, but people, ’cause we are all human beings. We are dealing with social problems and as Christians we know we wrestle not against flesh and blood, so we are also dealing with spiritual problems. How does wisdom, godly wisdom come into that? How do you go about that?
Rev Emmanuel: Well, Paula clearly we know that we are not accidents, that we didn’t bring ourselves on this earth. There is a designer, God, who created us and send us all individually here for a purpose. And God is so good that he didn’t just send it as here like any manufacturer, he accompanied or added also the manual, the operation manual. So what God did for us is that He gave us His word, which is the Bible, which contains the wisdom [00:04:00] for how to live the life we live here. However, unfortunately we have set that aside and we are using worldly wisdom.
Paula: Yeah.
Rev Emmanuel: Actually, scripture makes us to understand that there are two kinds of wisdom. There’s a wisdom from above and there’s a wisdom that is earthly.
Paula: Yeah.
Rev Emmanuel: So what is really happening is that we have leaned more on the worldly wisdom and not use God’s wisdom. And that is why we find ourselves where we are.
Paula: Yeah, that’s throwing some light onto it. So with that in mind, from what I’m hearing is that there’s a poor understanding of the times we live in. I mean, we can be aware of the time, but if you don’t even understand the times you’re living in, then you sometimes you’re not prepared. Right?
Rev Emmanuel: Yes. I mean, there’s a scripture in the word of God. I think it’s in 1 Chronicles chapter 12 verse [00:05:00] 32. He talks about the tribe of Issachar who understood the times and also what Israel ought to do. And because of this ability that they have, all the other tribes were subject to them. And so really I believe that, I mean we, we all agree that times comes and times go that the various seasons and times. So we’ve been able to rightly interpret the times we are in, helps us to know what to do. So, from where you are, you have four seasons and every season requires certain things you do and even the clothing you wear and all that. And so being able to truly understand the season or the time you can now do and be prepared for what is going on in that season. And so sadly, I mean, all around us, it is clear that we are, we don’t [00:06:00] understand the times. And so we are like doing the wrong things at the wrong time.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: And the season has changed, but we are still using the old methods for the new, and that has also contributed to the myriad of problems that we see, whether it be social or spiritual. And I can go further. I mean, to talk about today we have, for example, the Gen Z generation.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: I mean, that has been coined because they are different from us.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: But really we made them so, if I could put it that way. Reason being that, this generation and our generation are no different. The only difference is the exposure. They have had a different set of exposure from us, and that is what is making them different. But really this exposure also had come about because we… [00:07:00] I want to lay squarely at the feet of parents because we produce them. We got too busy with work and career and certain demands such that what needed to be put inside them in that formative years, we did a poor job. And that is why, because now we are leaning more in secular knowledge, academic knowledge versus family knowledge, social knowledge, religious knowledge that should be passing on from us to them. We failed. If you remember after Joshua, we are told that a generation arose after Joshua.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Who Bible says they did not know God. But even Joshua, could boldly declare that, “As for me and my house, we’ll serve the Lord.”
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: Though, he spoke that but however we found out that we didn’t have his, any of his children take over [00:08:00] from him. That is to say that he got so busy with the assignment God gave him that he was not available for these children to be trained to take over from them. So what we are actually going through is that they have gotten to a stage where we have children who are different from us. We have children who, if today we should leave everything behind, they might run everything down because their wisdom, we had to have built whatever we had, whether it be business, whatever it be ministry, or they lack the wisdom and it’s all because we didn’t understand a success without a successor is failure.
Paula: Say that again? Success
Rev Emmanuel: without a successor. It’s failure.
Paula: That’s true.
Rev Emmanuel: ’cause it means that the person who is gonna take over is gonna bring everything down. Why? Because the wisdom, the knowledge, the understanding, you have to have [00:09:00] raised whatever it is, the person is not equipped enough to handle what you have been able to build up.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: And I’m quoting Solomon who says, “it’s all vanity Who knows who the child, who is gonna take over from whether he have the wisdom to handle.” But no, there is a wisdom. The wisdom is that if you only would make time and raise, it’s part of the success plan that whatever I’m doing, I need to make sure that I pass it on. And this wisdom is actually found in creation. I remember homeschooling my children. And I used to do some of the lessons with them and I remember we’re doing the respiratory system in the human body. And so we were looking at blood circulation and all that. And it was interesting for me sitting behind because what we’re watching was a video and it was all animated.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: And it just hit me [00:10:00] that in part of the lesson, it taught that this white blood cells are our defense and that they are able to actually arrest these viruses and all that. But in the lesson it taught us that their lives one was so short that they die off and new ones come. But we know that in immunization you introduce a weak virus in there. The white blood cells learn how to kill it. Then next time you are able to overcome it. But my question now, which I got from there is that how come that the next generation that came after those who died were able to kill new ones who came? That is to say that right in your blood system, God has put in, the knowledge was passed on from one generation to the other. That is why we can stay alive and healthy because the wisdom, the [00:11:00] knowledge is passed on. Unfortunately, we go through certain situations like, I mean, life has a lot of challenges and we fall, we get up and all that. However, we are supposed to make sure that our hindsight becomes the next generation’s foresight.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: By passing this knowledge over and the wisdom and that is where we feel we have failed because we got too busy doing and building and forgetting that part of the equation should have been we trained the next generation to take over from us. Because really, life is a race. And I’ve come to understand it’s a baton race that we pick up from somewhere from others and we also will leave the scene and we have to pass the bat to the next generation. So how well we pick the baton and also make sure we rightly pass it on to the next generation, we would have fulfilled what God [00:12:00] is looking for from us.
Paula: So what I’m hearing from you, thank you so much. That’s so well said. What I’m hearing though is that Gen Zs, except something is done very soon, which can be Gen Zs, may live different lives than we are living if the Lord tarries.
Rev Emmanuel: Right.
Paula: But as a woman of faith, I always say our wisdom comes from the Lord, from the Holy Spirit. It comes down from above. And so when you recognize a problem, it’s half-solved, isn’t it?
Rev Emmanuel: Right?
Paula: So now we have identified the problem, and we are Christians. We are in the faith of Jesus Christ. How do we think we can go about solving it because a problem that is identified, recognized, we know what it is, we can now start looking for the solutions. [00:13:00] And we as Christians have the solution.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes, yes, absolutely. The solution is prescribed in the word of God. So, the solution let me give it to us. And, that is the blurp that I gave, that the Great Omission in the Great Commission is Discipleship. Jesus was sent to us here as an audio-visual of the Bible. Meaning that the Bible, you remember it says in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God. And the word was God.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: And the Word became flesh and dwell among us. So Jesus is actually the audio-visual of the Bible. So he came and really lived out what the wisdom, what God is really looking for from us.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: And actually for all of us, we are actually supposed to become like Him.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: In Romans [8:29], for whom He forknew He predestined that we should all [00:14:00] conform to the image of his Son. Now if that is true, which we know is true. Then the question is, how do we, I mean, become that? And it’s all through training. Actually, what God has helped to do for us is that He created everything He created has a purpose, and the purpose was to bring us back to Him.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: So, Romans 1 says, His invisible attributes are clearly seen. We know them by the things that were created so that no one can have excuse. I didn’t know that there was a God. So, creation speaks to us. The systems we have all points to the fact that, listen, this is God’s handiwork, God’s signature is on this, and He’s communicating to us. Sadly, some of us are not able to understand. So let me put it this way. I’m a [00:15:00] teacher by grace and I will throw this question out that, I mean, education is quite expensive for all of us. I mean, paying school fees, but would, did you think that it would’ve been very cheaper for us if we have bought the textbooks and given to our children for them to read and understand and we save ourselves the school fees we ought to pay. However, because when you give the books to the children, they’ll read it, even if they can and read it. They don’t understand what they are reading. They need a teacher to teach them, and that is what God has done that actually He didn’t just send us here and give us a manual.
But actually discipleship is the primary prescribed training program that God has given to us. That helps us to actually be equipped to have the wisdom He has so that we can live successful lives. Sadly just like [00:16:00] our own regular family, family, like we identifying, we have been busy. We have not been parenting well. And that same thing has happened in the church because parenting is work. You have to be intentional in your parenting. Well, sadly we pastors too, have not been intentional because it’s a lot of work. We just get people saved. And when people get saved, it’s just being born. They are babies. But for babies to grow up, they need the nurturing, they need the teaching. They need the training to grow. And so this is where we have failed where we have kept them wearing pampers and drinking from the bottle, drinking only milk when they ought to go through this training program that would’ve helped them to now be responsible and take initiative.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Now, we know that when you send a little [00:17:00] child, I mean, I can see this from this side of our world that, I mean, he can be stopped on the way, and that stranger can tell him that mommy says, or daddy says, give me the money. I’ll bring the item back home and the child will believe the stranger and just turn around and go. And so you can find out that what I’m trying to get across is that analogy I gave is that children are not deep thinkers. They can easily be deceived. And so if we haven’t done the training, we have just become big babies sitting in church. 30-year-old babies, 50-year-old babies. Because we I would like to quote one scripture in the Word of God, which is in Ephesians chapter four. It brings what I’m trying to say across it brings it home. Ephesians chapter four, we are told that Jesus, before he left, He gave gifts to men and gives some apostles, prophets, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers [00:18:00] for what purpose? It says for the equipping of the saints. Another word for equipping means for training. And says also the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come to the unity of the faith.
Paula: Amen.
Rev Emmanuel: And the knowledge of the Son of God. So you see, you can become something that you don’t know. Our goal is to become like the Son of God or Jesus Christ. So one of the major syllabus or the syllabus is for all that we do in church should be Christ. That is the syllabus because that’s the end product. Unfortunately, we teach on so many different things, which when I was in school we call that Non-sylla. Non-sylla means that which is not in the syllabus. So you go when you are not ready to write exams, you’re sitting in the exams room, the questions are put before you and you can’t answer because the teacher didn’t teach you what was required in the syllabus? [00:19:00]
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: So what has really happened to us both at home and at church, is that children have been born to us, whether it be home or children being born again in the church, but we have failed to do this one and all important duty, which is parenting. Now, so discipleship is simply spiritual parenting. That when they are born or souls are won which is rightly described as new babes in the Lord. They are supposed to be trained the Lord’s way.. And then so then it goes further in that Ephesians chapter four, it says, till we all come to the sorry. Let me, okay. Verse 13 says Till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.
Paula: Amen.
Rev Emmanuel: That we no longer become children [00:20:00] tossed to and fro, carried about with every wind of doctrine and by the trickery of men and the cunning craftiness with deceitful plotting. If we have done our work well, children who have been properly trained or right foundation laid, when they get on social media, they are able to filter because you have armed them. But what we are talking, children will be tossed to and fro meaning, that whatever the winds blow, it takes them every wind of doctrine. So our lack of parenting that, so sometimes this is what happen because we fail instead of our children becoming arrows who speak to the enemies at the gates. If we are not careful, our children will be a tool rather in the hands of our enemy against us. And it seems like [00:21:00] this direction is where we are heading to.
Paula: So, I’m so happy that you read from Ephesians, ’cause I’m reading Ephesians too and I’m I wanted to say, and I seem to just keep being in Ephesians and it’s just so edifying to me. But one thing that stood out for me is Ephesians 1, where it says that, you know, we should ask for the spirit of wisdom and the revelation of the knowledge of Him.
Rev Emmanuel: Right.
Paula: And that has been like my anchor for everything I do. I’m like, if we know God through the wisdom and the revelation that He gives us.
Rev Emmanuel: Right.
Paula: That trickles down to so much more.
Rev Emmanuel: Right.
Paula: So as I hear from you that, you know, parents and parents in the church and even the like the pastors in the church, like you’re saying, even the leadership in the church has failed. I’m hearing, am I, is [00:22:00] that, am I summarising it? Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes, we have. I mean. The state of the church reflects the society.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: So, I mean, everything starts from we. We are the agents and the vehicle that God is using. We are the light of the world. We are the salt of the earth. And so when we see darkness covering the earth, it’s not because darkness is stronger than light. Really what has happened is that the light stops shining, and that is why darkness takes over. So we have night season because the sun went away, the light went away and the darkness takes over. So really what is happening is that we, the believers have failed and the failure has come from this five-fold ministry who did not understand that I’m not a prophet for prophet sake, evangelist, apostle. My one goal assignment is to equip people and make them become like Christ.
Paula: Yes. [00:23:00]
Rev Emmanuel: So anything we are doing outside Christ is a Non-sylla, out of the syllabus. So we can talk, you name it, inspirational messages or teach morals, but that is not the gospel.
Paula: Right. The gospel is Christ.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes, the gospel is Christ.
Paula: It’s Christ. Christ and Christ alone. The one who came, died, resurrected and is now seated at the right hand side of God. And we are seated besides Him and understanding that we can’t do this by ourselves. I think, I mean, I’ve heard everything that you’ve said and I agree, but then I guess we kind of touched on that, is that now we’ve recognized the problem, how do we solve it and how does the church solve it? We are talking about it, but in my opinion, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that now we have to go back to the origin. God the Father, God the Son, God the [00:24:00] Holy Spirit. Repent and ask for the wisdom on how to go about changing this. Because the only way it can be changed is wisdom, which is what you’re talking about.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes.
Paula: Understanding times we are in, but we need supernatural wisdom. The one that comes down from above.
Rev Emmanuel: Okay. So I mean the, the key I think is what the Bible has rightly described. God says that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Because remember, we have an enemy. Let’s not forget that there is an enemy who has chosen to adulterate. If he’s not able to stop you, he will slow you down. If it’s not able to slow you down I mean destroy or get you off track. Now what has happened? And you could see clearly several times from Paul who was big on doctrine, meaning that the right things has to be taught.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Because like I’m saying, [00:25:00] if we understand the times, we’ll know that Jesus first of all warned us that in the last days, there’ll be a lot of deception.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Now the deception is not like clearly something that is opposite. No, it is. So, it’s a counterfeit. What the enemy has given us, and many of us, what we are doing is counterfeit, because listen, Christianity is a life, it’s not a religion. It’s supposed to be woven into everything that we do.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: Plus our time, our resources, why we do what we do. And it is all focused to eternity.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: But sadly, we are only living and building things here. And so what is now happening is that we are become shortsighted. We are living only for the now. Forgetting that one day we are going to stand before him and guess what? One of the questions he’s going to us, did you do what I sent you?
Paula: Sent you to do. [00:26:00]
Rev Emmanuel: And one of it, all of us He’s going to ask us if you are really born again, He’s going to ask you where are the disciples? But the Great Commission says Go and make disciples. But so now when you hear that. And you say, how do I do it? Then you, then other answers come, which is that you first have to be a disciple before you can disciple another.
You see, Jesus says something, which I feel we all sometimes needs to be reminded about and say, what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul. What God is looking, I mean, so wisdom for our times is living life with eternity in mind. It informs us what to do. I have one little story of I heard about. A guy who went to the hospital had an issue and someway, somehow the hospital personnel swapped his file or test. And so the diagnosis, [00:27:00] the report that came pointed to whatever illness it was, and the doctor had to tell him, as per this report, it looks as if you have just one month to live.
Paula: Hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: And so this guy leaves the hospital and sad though, but suddenly everything changes. He’s no longer short-fused. He was kind, I mean, everything about him changed. Now. Why? Because he now saw that I only have one month to live. He was helpful to people and all that. Well, two weeks later he was called in. And the records were set right. And apology was given, sorry your file got swapped with somebody’s. But what he told the doctor was that, no, you don’t have to apologize. You have helped me. Why? Because for a long time I finally found the way to live.
Paula: Mm.
Rev Emmanuel: Because until this rude awakening that [00:28:00] came to me that I have somewhere to go and I need to be ready to stand before my Maker. I was living life as if I have all the time. So he continued that way. And I think for many of us, we get so busy with life that we don’t even understand that. Listen, even the children He gives us, we are going to give an account. Did you teach them the way to go? Because remember, Jesus gave us a parable that the talents I gave you, I’m expecting you to have gone to do business or traded so that you have made profit. So what I mean, whether it be the time we have, the education we have, the opportunities that have given to us, all these things, one day we are going to stand before our Master and our Father and give an account. And I feel that we need to have that at the forefront of everything that we do, and that is wisdom.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: So, scripture says the fear of the Lord [00:29:00] is the beginning of wisdom. And I think so because we are put him on the back burner and we are busy running His time. I mean, we’re on His time, but we are using the employer’s time to do our own side business.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: That is unwise.
Paula: Yep. So what advice, as we are rounding up here, what advice would you give to us, those of us who are believers and parents. Some may be grandparents, but people who are viewing this or listening to this and are hearing what you’re saying. You know, and they’re like, okay, so how do we solve this?
Rev Emmanuel: Well, I’ll point us straight back to the blueprint of which is the Bible.
Paula: The Bible.
Rev Emmanuel: Yes, the Bible where God has laid out how to live this life. And His first prescription is that we all need to sign up to discipleship. So let me give you one clear example. A [00:30:00] rich ruler goes to Jesus and say, Jesus, what must I do to have eternal life? And He says, you have to… He gave them, do not kill, do not steal, honor your parents. He said, I’ve been doing all these things since my youthful days. Bible says, Jesus laughed and said, but there’s one thing that you lack.
Paula: Yeah.
Rev Emmanuel: Go and sell all, give to the poor and have your treasures in heaven. Then come and follow me. People hear that and they don’t understand exactly what Jesus is talking about. Jesus says, you see, people interpret it to think that Jesus is against wealth and riches. No. Far from it.
Paula: I’ve heard a lot. Yeah.
Rev Emmanuel: What the Lord is trying to teach us there is that you need to come and sign up into discipleship.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: So that you’ll be trained. So these things that you are giving out, the issue is that once you sign up on discipleship, you are actually going to be even more wealthy because the way [00:31:00] God system is when you give it up, more comes. When you give, more counts. So temporally, let go, put it in a safe place, come into discipleship, and then you’ll be able to now handle the wealth and use it profitably. Or use it for the Master’s… because all the resources, like, Jesus also gave a parable about the rich fool. The rich fool, why was he a fool? Because Bible say he was not rich towards God. Meaning that he was living a selfish life, but the wealth that he had was supposed to be used to help others.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: But life is about giving. And one analogy or advice I’m giving us all, and I want to leave us to my hearers here is this, one of the best ways to understand life is how the tree is. Remember we equated to a tree. We are even referred to as tree of righteousness. My question is [00:32:00] this, when the tree bear fruits, does it bear fruit for itself? And the answer is no. This is all that he does, he actually is living to serve others. But the beauty about it is that because the tree is fruitful, he has a gardener, or a husbandman, or a farmer who ensures that its nutrients, pruning its care is given to it.
And that’s what God is looking from us. We don’t have to worry about the nutrients we need to have, the water we need to have and all that. Let’s just understand that we are here to serve our generation, and so we should take our eyes off ourselves where we first put ourselves on what I can get, what I can have and all that, and switch it the other way where we seek the kingdoms agenda first, then all the other things will be added. Then we can [00:33:00] be saved. And not stand before Him with regrets.
Paula: So true. Yes. Those are your parting words. As somebody used to say to me, I dunno who. As Christians, we have to realize that this world is not our home. It’s temporary, and God’s kingdom is like opposite to this world. So you said give.
Rev Emmanuel: 180 degrees. Yeah.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: Actually, we don’t own anything because when you own something, then if you are leaving, you could have taken it away.
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Rev Emmanuel: But the proof that you don’t own it is that when you die all that, you possess whether even you had a title deed on a property, you leave that behind.
Paula: You leave it behind.
That tells
Rev Emmanuel: you that it was just a lease.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: Uh-huh.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: So…
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: But there is something that is waiting us in eternity. That is what we need to labor towards.
Paula: Yes.
Rev Emmanuel: And make sure that we enter in a grand way [00:34:00] and we are to be intentional about living our lives.
Paula: Intentional about living our lives.
Rev Emmanuel: So that we have the last laugh.
Paula: And you can be said, told…
Rev Emmanuel: He who laughs last, laughs best.
Paula: That’s so true. And also that we can be told, well done, my good and faithful servant.
Rev Emmanuel: Absolutely. Absolutely. Amen.
Paula: Reverend Emmanuel, this has been really thought-provoking. I’ve had so many guests on and I say, I have to do a second episode. You have been put in that category. We have to do another episode.
Rev Emmanuel: Gladly. I gladly you’ll make time for it. I appreciate the opportunity giving to me and may the Lord bless this program you have and you are doing something very wonderful. Setting the stage and the forum for people to hear truth, wisdom and guidance for life. So may the Lord reward you. You’re serving a need. This is part of you being that tree that is bearing fruits. [00:35:00]
Paula: Amen.
Rev Emmanuel: Amen. God bless you.
Paula: Amen. Amen. But one last thing is that, two last things people haven’t heard this would like to get in touch with you. Where can they find you?
Rev Emmanuel: Okay. So, I don’t have a solid social presence, but you can reach me on whatsApp.
Paula: Okay.
Rev Emmanuel: I’ll make the numbers available to you to share.
Paula: Okay.
Rev Emmanuel: I’m also on Telegram.
Paula: Okay. I’ll just drop it. I’ll drop it in the chat.
Rev Emmanuel: Thank you. Thank you.
Paula: And for those of you who have listened to this and being blessed, who wouldn’t be? I want you to know that to be a guest on Chatting with the Experts, just reach out to me on my website, which is chattingwiththeexperts.com. I speak to the best. You can also reach out to me on LinkedIn or on Instagram. My handle on Instagram is at [00:36:00] chat_experts_ podcast, and I’m also on YouTube. YouTube, just search for Chatting with the Experts on YouTube. You’ll see all our previous episodes, and of course you’ll see this one. So thank you again.
Rev Emmanuel: Thank you too.
Paula: And now we’ll open up the floor to everybody who joined us who may ask you questions that I haven’t had the chance to ask you. Thank you.
Rev Emmanuel: Thank you. Alright.