Ida Blake moved from Monseratt to the UK at the tender age of 17.
Listen to how she discovered that she was now in a new system where race and class mattered but how when she renewed her relationship with God she was able to change her mindset.
[00:00:00] Paula: welcome to check in with the experts podcast, immigrants. Canada or Australia. Yeah. We talk about the struggles while at the same time highlighting the triumph that we have all experienced while living abroad. We also like to share resources with our fellow immigrant so that we all can benefit from those resources. So my guest today, she’s a fellow Caribbean sister.
[00:00:55] Paula: Her name is either. And she now lives and works in east London in the UK. She’s originally from month’s rat. And so welcome Ida to chatting with the experts. Tell us all about yourself, where you did your formal education, and let’s just learn about you.
[00:01:17] Ida: All right. Thank you for having me, Paula. So yes, I am Ida Blake.
[00:01:22] Ida: I am 36 years old. I moved to the UK when I was 17. So I’ve been here technically two decades. I grew up on monster app. I spend my family kind of lineage coming from over islands, but once shot that’s where, you know, I fast learned to speak. Everything that I learned about myself is very low instruction.
[00:01:44] Ida: So I finished secondary school in monstra and then I’ve moved over to you. And then, you know, I found myself in many kinds of experiences, but in terms of education, I did do my bachelor’s degree, studied health and social care. And I studied nutrition science. I very renounced the academy, the health sciences, a category.
[00:02:07] Ida: So that’s just that, it’s a bit about me. All
[00:02:10] Paula: right. Then she said, that’s a little bit about her. So. You moved to the UK at the age of 17,
[00:02:20] Ida: I think to get away from home, to be honest, that was a huge part. And secondly, in the Caribbean, it’s pretty expensive to go to university is very expensive. You have to, you can travel to Barbados or I think Barbados or Jamaica, and it was just much more convenient.
[00:02:40] Ida: So education would have been free for me to get into. It just seems like the natural progression to, to, to, to, to move to the UK. I think how the UK prior to moving on a holiday and I did meet a very handsome young man, and he was really this stimulation for really one thing to move
[00:03:03] Paula: the truth has come into light to further her education, but it wasn’t hampered by meeting handsome young man.
[00:03:13] Paula: Oh, right. And so you moved to the UK. Did you have family here? Oh yeah.
[00:03:20] Ida: I had a family, new UK stuff for most people in the Caribbean, in the fifties and the forties and sixties. A lot of people did move to the UK, went off to war to work. So my mom comes from a family of 15 children. So how fast set of brothers did move to the UK in the fifties?
[00:03:38] Ida: So I have lots of extended. How many from them having children, et cetera. And when the volcanic crisis happened and what show in 95, um, a lot of people who were evacuated to the UK. So I had quite a lot of family that moved over. So in some ways I kind of knew that I would end up being in the UK.
[00:04:00] Paula: Okay.
[00:04:01] Paula: Okay. Because you knew you had family then as you said, education was going to be free there. Yeah. At you, I love the fact that you were thinking ahead, but we all know that leaving our country of birth or where we grew up can be hard. So I’m sure you have some stories that reflect that, you know that, oh, I got here and maybe it was what you were expecting or maybe it wasn’t.
[00:04:29] Paula: I wasn’t,
[00:04:31] Ida: I was surprised how. I, I, it, uh, my mum always say London, is that the capital of old houses? It’s so ancient, if not like the state. So everything is very modern in the sense that it’s purposely newly built. It’s like architecture from the 18th century, that’s kind of remodeled or a restoration with some modern twist has kind of changed now since the Olympics park had been built, but I was quite surprised.
[00:05:01] Ida: How did. And then secondly, the web, it was generally gray men every day. Like, since I’ve been in 20 years, I could probably say I’ve had four real, maybe five or six real summers. And that’s hard coming from the Caribbean and adjusting to seeing. And lack of colors because it’s not a country where the buildings are pink, yellow, and pink and blue.
[00:05:29] Ida: It’s very uniform in very dark colors. So that really took me back. And then being in a CEO, I suddenly realized that coming from an item, a small committee where everyone knows each other and there’s a genuine. Um, connection amongst people, even if people are not the closest a friend, they’re just some kind of cohesion.
[00:05:50] Ida: And in London really was like, everyone’s zooms in passing each other, very superficial conversations. And as a young person, I didn’t really know how do I fit. Like, you know, I didn’t have many friends, everybody seems to just be in their own little world. So I felt very alone to start with very alone. And it was really challenging because I wasn’t the pest.
[00:06:16] Ida: Now either. I would say I’m now I have put myself out and try and find things that would resonate with me that I didn’t really understand myself as a 17 year old versus being affected. So trying to see, okay, what can I do? I just, I was really confused. So it was really difficult making friends, cause I was not at that time, had that personality that I could just, you know, easily mold with pupil.
[00:06:44] Ida: Cause I tend to be that person that kind of reclusive. Keep to myself, maybe have one or two good friends and I did meet one or two good friends. And that kind of helps, you know, start into move around, start. It took a while, but it was difficult just that whole separate list that I’ve realized people live very separated.
[00:07:05] Paula: And I think that’s a common struggle that a lot of us who are more from, you know, our countries either even, I mean, like from I’m from Nigeria and I also lived in the Grenada and I was surrounded by families and bought places and then you’re moving. And you find that the Western culture is more, you know, um, it’s not really just extended family per se.
[00:07:29] Paula: It’s more nuclear. So me, if you’re married or if you have a partner, me and my partner and our close friends, as opposed to. To where we come from, where
[00:07:42] Paula: exactly, you know, people don’t make appointment that just like I’m here, you know, and you open the door and whether you want to be at home or you’re not at home, people drop in and you know, there’s noise smell like. Interesting songs all around people talking here, you have security cameras there, people are security cameras.
[00:08:03] Paula: They call you and say, Hey, just so somebody got my house. You know who that is. You’ve never seen them before. You know, that sort of thing. Whereas here we depend upon our security camera to record things and so on. So there’s different and it takes a while to get used to that. Doesn’t it
[00:08:20] Ida: took me, I would say about three years to really.
[00:08:25] Ida: To really accept that this is very different to what I grew up knowing, and to find myself like, cause when I came, I was also confused even that, like I said, I did come really to continue my education. Obviously that relationship was very short-lived and I remember that I didn’t pass my all levels of GCSE.
[00:08:46] Ida: I don’t know what we want to call it as a universal word, but I was supposed to go on to do my a levels and I couldn’t do it cause I didn’t pass my all level. And then it put me back. Cause I didn’t really want to go back to do maths again. And I just want to do my a levels and that didn’t happen. So I ended up doing a vocational course and it was in childcare because I was trying to figure out what do I want to do career wise?
[00:09:10] Ida: I knew you always had a health, an interest in health. Um, I wasn’t sure. And I was just confused. I didn’t really know what to do. So, you know, at that age you would go to these, uh, Young people, careers, advisors, and MDB suggestions. Why don’t you do what placement? Why don’t you do this? And it was suggested to me childcare.
[00:09:27] Ida: And I remember going, and I was just in so bored. I was bored. I was like, this is not for me. And then I went back and I decided to just do it like an entry, kind of like all round kind of vocational thing. Like maths, English, this that follow that. What do I really want to do? So it didn’t know what I want to study.
[00:09:46] Ida: Um, I kind of then fed into what happened. I started to work. I got a job in a hotel in a bar, like as a waitress that it worked for very long. Cause again, I was bored at it, like it very much. And I remember I went to Redstone with GP, adults who said. And I was like, oh, ha this environment, this is really cool.
[00:10:08] Ida: And I was like, okay, I like this. Then we’ll do vocational program. So I said, let me do like a vocational program and administration sit on uncle what placement and in adults is surgery. And then also this is interesting, but then I realized it was very limited. I was like, I don’t really want to do administration.
[00:10:25] Ida: And people always keep suggesting to me, why don’t I go and do Nass training? And I was like, I don’t really want to be a nice, I like people. I like Karen, but I didn’t really like that. Hands-on it was just not me. So I ended up kind of walking in like lots of surgeries and administration for. And then I was like, you know, this, I don’t really know.
[00:10:46] Ida: I really didn’t know what to do for quite a while. I ended up part of, one of the things that helped me, like I said, loneliness was the biggest thing for me. And when I came to London, I was saying that identity crisis with myself, like, who am I as a person? What do I want in my life? You know, I had quite a lot of traumatic experience because of what kind of crisis really flipped my life upside down.
[00:11:11] Ida: I had two. I had to move to a different island for a short for few years, because at the time in months, right now, when you have to walk in, was going to destroy it or island, it was just like a lot of upheaval. That’s the best word I can say was off on certainty. So imagine from the age of 10. So two was at 16, 17, that was the dynamics in monster.
[00:11:34] Ida: There was just a lot of uncertainty. So my mind wasn’t settled. You know, as a teenager, you’re going through hormonal changes. And I remember my relationship with my parents broke down and I just really wanted to get away from home, just wanting to get away from home. And then when I met that young man of four, yeah, this would be my life and everything.
[00:11:55] Ida: And then obviously when I came, it was a very short lived. Experience. And then one of the things that I found easy to, um, find a way to, to get over loneliness was having casual relationships of men, because it was just so easy to meet men. And I remember that that in itself, put me in a lot of very bad situations.
[00:12:19] Ida: Um, I remember ending up at a sexual health clinic just for testing. And I remember I saw such a health advisor and I said to myself, I really liked this type of work. This is really interesting how awesome you are. How did you get to become this and that? And she said, it’s not really a clear route in, but you need some kind of health promotion, um, experience and stuff like that.
[00:12:42] Ida: So I remember going back to the young people’s kind of. Advisory service. And I was saying, oh, I really liked this. I know, like there isn’t really a clear route. Maybe you need to try and get work experience in a health promotion type of thing. So anyway, why can in doctor surgeries doing all that administration?
[00:12:59] Ida: But I saw a job in a sexual health clinic as a technician, and it would train you up to do things like looking under the microscope to diagnose gonorrhea, take him bloods from people and I, to that it’s just conjuring the interested and I applied for it and I got it. So that’s where all my experience then started, um, in terms of working with people and then understanding the psychological distress of having like long-term.
[00:13:23] Ida: Um, STI is like people living with HIV, people having like certain conditions that can’t go away like herpes or keep having survival issues with HBB. And when I started listening to the conversations and then seeing the other side of human dynamics, it made me really interested in starting to explore my own self, my own, my own issues in terms of how I was attaching to.
[00:13:49] Ida: Because I realized I had a certain attachment style that I was seeking rescuing. I wanted a man to rescue me and make my life for me. And I thought it’s, um, question myself. But that’s when I was starting to learn who I am as a person. And then at the same time I met my husband, the man that I’m married to.
[00:14:09] Ida: And I, he provoked me to wanted to be better. So then I decided actually I enjoyed this field that I’m working in. I want it to be a sexual health advisor. I needed to get my degree. So I ended up, I went and did my degree in health and social care. Then a long story short me and my husband to be at the time he was in a very difficult situation with his immigration status.
[00:14:34] Ida: So he ended up going back to the Caribbean and I ended up in a long distance relationship for six years. And then we got.
[00:14:43] Paula: Wow. Six years, six years. That’s a long time.
[00:14:48] Ida: Very good. And during that six years experience, I learned a lot about myself because. That relationship provokes me to go do my degree. It provokes me to find a really good paid job.
[00:15:01] Ida: And I ended up working for a very prestigious football club, which has still worked for, and then last way it will start at, I start watching clients, people that have issues with their weight. And I also struggled with my weight in my teens, because again, all that trauma that I went through, my relationship with my parents breakdown, I ended up with an eating disorder because, you know, I grew up in a time that beauty.
[00:15:24] Ida: You know, in the R and B era was about fitness and I was trying to fit into that idea. So I was kind of through, I don’t know of identity conflict within myself, like, who am I? Who am I? And then when I met, like I said, my husband’s to be, and then I have to do a lot to make myself better, to be able to bring him to do you even know it?
[00:15:44] Ida: When I look at it? It’s funny that I wasn’t doing all of this for myself. I was doing it because I was in a relationship. So it’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it forced me to, to, uh, she get grounded and like, okay, what do you want to do? So it did my degree, got a paid job, you know, started to just invest in myself.
[00:16:04] Ida: So anyway, well my cousins, my husband moved to the UK or that this wasn’t gold. You really kind of not see who he is, but who he is and the marriage in itself. Very much a learning experience. It didn’t work out. You know, it gave me a beautiful daughter and she was really my catalyst for really like, you know, really putting together my work as a health coach, like who do I want to serve?
[00:16:32] Ida: You know, I want to serve women that struggle. Themselves, you know, understanding who they are, what are their habits in life loving lovingness self? Because I generally think for the majority of people that struggle with overweight, unless it’s a clinical issue, that they have some kind of genetic dysfunction, why they put on weight for most people that don’t be consistent with their self will look after their physical needs is a core belief that they don’t deserve to live in a body that they should feel happy and proud.
[00:17:02] Ida: So, because I’ve gone from my own journey, I’ve used what I’ve learned for therapy, use, what I’ve done for culture and, and then my professional studies to create and body your heart desire program, which I’ve created. So it’s the whole thing of even saying to me, it was just self development as a human being and look
[00:17:22] Paula: at you today.
[00:17:25] Paula: You know, everybody has a story I believe, but everybody has a. And you found your purpose. It wasn’t like a straight in the road, you know, just. I was born in Montserrat, came to the UK because I knew I needed to further my education. I mean, and it would be easier and cheaper to do it here. And once I got here, I jumped straight into school and look at me today.
[00:17:47] Paula: No, you had your journey.
[00:18:18] Paula: So we are just talking now how you, I said there’s a purpose. There is a purpose for you being here. It wasn’t as straightforward as we would have loved it to be, but at the same time, it enabled you to be where you are today because I look at your Facebook live and it is geared towards women and women finding themselves and being happy in their body.
[00:18:43] Paula: In themselves with themselves in the
[00:18:46] Ida: present, even though they want to work towards where they want to go.
[00:18:50] Paula: Yes. Yes. Yes. And that’s important
[00:18:54] Ida: hundred percent. Cause I think there’s somebody called it preoccupation destination, where you attach your happiness to when you achieve the outcome. And it’s like a premeditated idea.
[00:19:07] Ida: You can only be happy if you’re in a size 10 or if you’ve learned rather than being happy now and do the things you need to do was you’re moving towards what you think you want, but sometimes what you think you want, isn’t what you really need and then make him peace. And, and, and I think the whole thing.
[00:19:25] Ida: Gratitude is actually being thankful for the fact of how everything you have right now serves you. And it’s always never a bad idea to want more or to, you know, have a plan to better yourself in whatever area, but to get there in ease mean being in the present and doing the work in the ways that you can.
[00:19:48] Ida: And then you may not even necessarily get there. You might get to a different angle, but it’s really not attaching yourself to the idea that you could only be happy if you only see that, that one way.
[00:20:01] Paula: So true. So true. Because a lot of us live in the past. All we are looking to the future and we are not enjoying the present, forgetting that the present keeps changing, you know, so like [2:00] PM.
[00:20:16] Paula: At 1 59, [2:00] PM was the future. And so one, [2:00] PM came 1 59 was the past and 2 0 1 will be the future. So if we look at that, you know, I’m back, maybe tomorrow, I’ll be happy if I have this and you’re not even enjoying what you do have right now. You woke up in the morning. You’re not in a hospital bed.
[00:20:39] Paula: You know, some people are in a hospital bed. But, and you could even be in a hospital bed and be happy. My mom used to say happiness as it’s a state of mind where you can be anywhere, you have to decide upon, you have to decide to be happy. And that’s important.
[00:21:00] Ida: I was just thinking, because I think the thing is the feeling that people get from having the things that they think is going to make them happy.
[00:21:07] Ida: It’s not the thing. It’s the feeling that the thing. And that’s something I suddenly realized recently because people used to say it to me and I never really understood it, but it’s really, the experience is what we want.
[00:21:23] Paula: And that’s another topic they experience. So they younger people live a lot for a bit experience.
[00:21:30] Paula: And I like that it’s the experience, but the experience has to be, or should. We should try to make the experience positive, but at the same time, why I hesitated because even negative experiences can lead to a positive experience depending on how we, I mean, the perspective that we look at it.
[00:21:56] Ida: Oh, but you’ve been to the UK. Like I said, I wouldn’t have had the, the opportunity to meet some of the people that I’ve met from all parts of the pole. Like one of my best friends, she’s a gypsy from Romania or Roma gypsy, and she’s an activist. She uses her work as an actress to put a lot of messages in terms of discrimination.
[00:22:19] Ida: How people face in Eastern Europe. And until I went to Romania, I’ve been around her. I never knew that level of racism still exist in the world. And there’s something you don’t see on the news and et cetera, but she had exposed me to a part of the world. I’ve never would have even thought to trouble. And even a culture that I’ve commissary even appreciate, not even being exposed to in the Caribbean.
[00:22:45] Ida: So me and just different people in the UK, it’s an epilogue. You get to meet all people, all
[00:22:52] Paula: cultures, and that in itself has, you know, broadened your outlook on life, changed your mindset. I’m sure to. Being able to see that, you know, racism doesn’t necessarily have to always do with skin color. Sometimes it has to do with ethnicity.
[00:23:11] Paula: It has to do with culture. Sometimes it even has to do with perception. Yeah.
[00:23:18] Ida: And again, it comes from a lack of knowledge or understanding of differences because it’s the human mindset to see one being better over the other. If they’re not familiar,
[00:23:32] Paula: Yes. Yes. Oh, I love what you’re saying. As you just rightly said, I was about to ask, you know, so now that you live, you’ve been living in the UK for 19 years, how do you think your experience compares to what you anticipated would be?
[00:23:47] Paula: But I think you’ve answered that in a way, cause you said it has broadened your outlook on life. It has given you an exposure that you don’t think you would have had if you had just remained in numb Surratt in that room. And it has. Up for you opportunities in which you feel you can give back to people, women in particular expect, especially about self love more than self-awareness because I mean, self-awareness means we are
[00:24:14] Ida: aware self-awareness is awareness, but sometimes when people.
[00:24:18] Ida: Everybody’s mellowed in their own soup, meaning whatever they’re being mixed in from their parents, their environment and their culture, particularly where I’m speaking about for my work from self love, or self-acceptance sometimes a lack of self-awareness of their own programming from childhood. What they’ve learned about relationships, what they’ve learned about theirself.
[00:24:41] Ida: If they weren’t affirmed as children, why do you seek validation? Why they don’t stretch ourselves out of our comfort zone. So sometimes people are aware of this situation and a yearning for more, but then the limitation that comes up in their mind come from lack of self belief, fear, and all of that. So that’s what self-awareness is about.
[00:25:01] Ida: How do you rise above your own limitations, but all of a sudden knowledge in that you have limitations without blaming yourself for not being able to do this. So not to do that, but how can I be about, okay. How can I actually take responsibility in all areas of my day back? I want a business, but then you sit with the idea and get comfortable and then you don’t action.
[00:25:22] Ida: It, you want to go back to school, you don’t go because you don’t believe that. Actually I have the capacity to learn, you know, you’re in a relationship, you could look on the outside and see that. Actually my, my husband not treat me. Right. I could see. And then you kind of then. Tell yourself, or this is it, maybe it’s just me.
[00:25:39] Ida: You know? So I think there is something in self-awareness because of different levels of self-awareness.
[00:25:47] Paula: I mean, you hit the nail on the head. They are different levels of self awareness. I know what you are doing is helping people to be aware of, you know, the fact that they are loved. You have to love yourself.
[00:26:02] Paula: ’cause you can’t even love your neighbor as yourself. If you don’t love yourself. In fact, you will love your neighbor negatively if you don’t like,
[00:26:08] Ida: but it’s conditionally because you’re not codependency. When two people are relying on each other to meet an emotional need. But what I find, because I remember this lady said to me, yeah, I treat people the way I like to be treated, but I’m like, but you treat yourself bad that.
[00:26:24] Ida: And then she suddenly realized, but sometimes you treat him people bet or, or doing things that people arts of you because you want, you want to be seen as a good person, or you want to be, it’s validating, even though I’m using the word validation, but it’s about affirming a sense of self rather than affirmation of I am enough, even if I have to tell somebody, no, and don’t take on the fear of, oh, they’re not going to want to be my friend.
[00:26:50] Ida: They’re going to see me as a bad passive. So a lot of people live in codependent relations with other people.
[00:26:58] Paula: Agreed, agreed. But as you rightfully said, it trickles down to, you know, you loving yourself, you understanding yourself, understanding also that who you are is a combination of your environment, your child.
[00:27:14] Paula: Um, what you have seen, what you have been exposed to because you can’t be what you don’t know. You can’t, when you don’t know what you don’t know, you really don’t know.
[00:27:23] Ida: This is a thing in our community. You’re not being like I can even use release. It’s to an extent, oh, if people would say, oh, you need to aspire to do this or do that.
[00:27:34] Ida: And then as a child, you’re hearing this, but then if you have no actual lived example of it and the people that are telling you to do it, they, their salt doesn’t do it. It’s like falling. It’s like we’ll offer doc back because it doesn’t make sense. You hear and see it, but it cannot resonate on a soul level because you don’t see an example of it.
[00:27:55] Ida: Hey,
[00:27:55] Paula: Sam Lee. Exactly. And so Ida, what would you say to like a younger, you, if you could look back at you from where you are now and what you’re doing, if you had a chance to go back and talk to a younger you or better still let’s make this more realistic. Somebody 19 / 17, like you were leaving Montserrat and leaving their country and coming to the UK, what would you say to them today?
[00:28:26] Paula: I wouldn’t say.
[00:28:29] Ida: Be quite on what you want for yourself, like make up your mind. What is that you want to pursue for your life. If you want to do something, be clear about what you want to do, and then just find a ways to take action, to do those things and be willing to push yourself out your comfort zone, to connect yourself to people like mind or people that can help you to learn the things you need to learn or whatever it is.
[00:28:55] Ida: But you have to prepare to come out your conflict.
[00:28:58] Paula: Be prepared to come out of your comfort, so, okay. That’s a big one. Sometimes you need some. To be able to come out of his comfort zone. Sometimes you have to realize that you are in your comfort zone, you know,
[00:29:13] Ida: and the support is I, and I know because even with me, I have to stretch myself and I do have to have support.
[00:29:20] Ida: And if you don’t have that, you just have to have that confidence within yourself. And I do believe you have to ask God for things because. The people that gravitate to it in my life will never, for me, preplanned, they just came into my life in different ways. I met them through work or an event, and, you know, but I think you have to be clear what it is that you want and you have to ask for it.
[00:29:41] Ida: So I’m talking now from a spiritual perspective, but I do think there’s a lot of truth in it because of my own experience. You have to also what, you know, you need at whatever given time, and God will give it to you.
[00:29:57] Paula: And also from a spiritual point of view, which leads me to a question that I love to ask. And let me know if you want to answer that. Do you think that you are where you are today? You’re a survivor you’re thriving. You’re doing well. Do you think that you will attribute that to luck or to anything? I’ll do something.
[00:30:21] Ida: No, I don’t think, uh, lucky I don’t move. Luck like they say is really you putting yourself out there, but I do think it’s also me having that mindset that I didn’t want a mediocre life I wanted to be better as a person. And when I started to really start building my relationship back with God, did I trust God? Did I lean into God?
[00:30:47] Ida: Like objectively put myself out on my feet and really ask and pray and did the right thing, use all the virtues. And that’s what I had to do to get grounded. And I told you it was the best thing that I did when I really leaned back into God three years ago. And is it blessings? I think its blessings. I don’t think it’s luck.
[00:31:08] Ida: I think its blessings
[00:31:10] Paula: so I think it’s blessings. Yes. When you lean back. And I think what I’m hearing from you is, even though you were brought up in a Christian. Developing your own relationship with God changed your outlook or your mindset on a lot of things. Am I correct? Hundred percent. I love that. I love that.
[00:31:34] Paula: Oh my gosh. All good things do have to come to an end. I’m unfortunately, this does so, but I, I want to share you with others. And so, because I want to share what I’ve heard and what I’m benefiting from what I’m enjoying right now with others. Where can you be contacted online?
[00:31:52] Ida: Okay. So on Facebook, if Ida IBA, broach RAC hates there’s many of us, but on Instagram, which is easier.
[00:32:01] Ida: My TAC is Ida B underscore holistic health coach. And my email address, maybe if you put in a threatened, it’s a bit long with ADA, be at 360 weight loss, coach dot.
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