Empowering Women in Tech: Walking in Authority

Paula: [00:00:00] Welcome everyone to another episode of Chatting with Experts TV show with me, Paula Okonneh, the host. Every week I bring to you fabulous women from Africa, the Caribbean, and in the diaspora. Our mission is to empower, [00:01:00] is to encourage, is to inspire women globally. And every week I have a woman, and sometimes a man, who does this just that. So today I’m going to be talking to women. Our topic is Women Walk In Your Authority to foster responsible technology. And with me to do that is minister Dr. Ann Ingraham. But before she comes on, I want to tell you a bit about her. She is an audience minister and a seasoned health information technology strategist.
Well, I can never get that word right. Strategist. who holds a PhD in business administration specializing in engineering and technology management. She’s also the CEO of Exponential Health Tech Advisors LLC and Axion Galaxy Incorporated and is also the chief [00:02:00] of staff at the Government Blockchain Association, we are going to be talking about women walking in authority to foster responsible technology. And so I’ll have her come on and do just that. So welcome to the show, Dr. Ann, I get that wrong all the time, Minister Dr. Ann Ingram. I am thrilled that you are here.
Ann: Thank you.
Paula: Welcome to the show, doctor. And I get that wrong all the time. Minister Dr. Ann Ingraham. Welcome.
Ann: That’s Ann. Ann is great.
Paula: Ann is great. All right. But I want to make sure that people know that. You worked for that minister, certification, a doctorate, you worked for, so we’ll give you that honor and then from now onwards, [00:03:00] I’ll just call you Ann. How about that?
Ann: Sounds good. Perfect.
Paula: All right. So, I gave a brief description, and I say brief because your bio is much longer than what I read out. So, tell us a bit about you before we go on with the rest of the show.
Ann: Sure. Well, I was born and raised in Kingston, Jamaica, so I’m an island girl.
Paula: Island girl.
Ann: The best island in the Caribbean.
Paula: All right, we can stop the recording now. All right.
Ann: Immigrated to the U. S. when I was 15. And I don’t know when we started, whether or not you saw my image photo with my high school picture way, way back when. And then so I went to high school in Brooklyn and went to College of State, New York, and then joined the military. So I’m a veteran.
Paula: That’s good.
Ann: Yeah, I served active [00:04:00] duty for about three and a half, four years. And then I got out and when I went to Europe and then came back and then went back to school for medical technology and then IT, and then, got my PhD. So it’s been kind of a long journey. And then within that timeframe also was ordained actually this year. But I’ve been serving the Lord for a long time. But my ordination was actually prophesied in 2016, but it didn’t come to pass without my doing anything about it. But God spoke to the pastor, my part of my journey here. When I came to Florida he said, the Lord told me to ordain you. And so the ordination happens. And so here I am and living my best life.
Paula: And nothing’s better than that. Living your best life in the Lord.
Ann: Yes, absolutely. In obedience.
Paula: In obedience. And that’s a topic for another day because I could talk a [00:05:00] lot about obedience.
Ann: Yes.
Paula: What got you down this field? Because I know this is a lonely field for women. We’ve always talked about how there’s not enough women in technology. And our topic today is to Encourage Women to Walk in their Authority and foster Responsible Technology. So what got you into this field in first place?
Ann: Yes. So I always loved technology. I’ve always been good in science. When I went to college, I actually went to be a research chemist. So I started out as a chemistry major and then transitioned from… in the military, I was a chemical laboratory technician. So I used to work with radiological agents, nerve agent, anything talk about, you know, your weapons of mass destruction worked in the lab and also used to teach chemistry, math, radiation, physics. He used to teach all of that. Okay. And then I transitioned into healthcare and then computers, when I was in college was the start of, IT, so think [00:06:00] way back when. I didn’t think I would be a programmer, definitely not because it was so boring to me, but with the advancement of technology and I just love it.
I love Star Trek. I love, all of those futuristic scientific, shows that we used to see. And so technology has always been easy for me. Science has always been easy for me. It’s kind of what my gifting is. And so I got into healthcare and then now at the intersection of healthcare and I. T. and actually working with more emerging technology like blockchain and A. I. Right. So it’s just I’m in my stream, just in my path and I just go with it and I love it.
Paula: Yeah, I can tell. I mean, your voice says it, your body language says it. So it’s good to see women excited about technology. So now let’s talk about what is responsible technology?
Ann: Responsible technology, that’s a very good question. And as we know, [00:07:00] technology drives organizational success, especially in these times, right? But the point is Responsibly is very important. So alongside the innovation benefits, right? We have concerns that arise about data protection, privacy, inclusivity, bias, in everyday technology. You hear the sparks and concerns about AI and what AI can do if allowed to run amok, right? So responsible technology involves considering the values, the unintended consequences and mitigating risk. It provides inclusivity and ethics and development and deployment, addressing data privacy, security, inclusivity, and ethical use.
And so we have to think about how is it going to impact the human. And so when we’re talking about ethical technology, we have to think about [00:08:00] all those things I mentioned, the privacy, the technology, but then the impact to the human. for that. And what do we need to do, especially as women in tech, ensuring that when technology is created, when algorithms are created, that it does take into consideration the feminine aspect, right? The cultural aspect, right? Racial aspect to reduce biases. And as leaders in technology, we need to have some oversight over that and influence how things are done.
Paula: Okay. Right. I see the relevance of that, especially now, with AI just being first and foremost and everyone’s face, even the places that I’ll say in my case, I don’t like seeing it on my WhatsApp. I’m like, what is this? This is supposed to be encrypted. And then if I see AI, there’s like. Question mark, question mark, question mark. Yeah. So how do we, I mean, how do you go about implementing [00:09:00] this responsible technology?
Ann: Okay, that’s a very good question. One of the things that I think we need to make sure that we understand is that we should not be afraid of it. We should not be afraid of it. We should really embrace technology and use it to our advantage. So in terms of as a woman in tech and walking in that leadership authority. Here are some recommendations I would have for you. All right.
Paula: Right. Let’s hear that.
Ann: Number one. Celebrate your strengths, right? So when you’re in that tech field, you have a strength that comes with you. That’s what I’m calling that divine authority that God has given you, right? And, we can talk about what that really means maybe at another time, but you’ve got to celebrate those strengths. You have to be confident in who you are. That means that you need to lead with [00:10:00] confidence, right? You need to be bold. You need to break social norms. You need to empower others. So one of the things that I love to do is as I work with other women or young people, you know, try to impart my knowledge to them, right, about the concerns that technology could bring to the table, and then how to work with that concern to reduce and mitigate risks.
We have to also embrace growth, right. So, as the technology advanced, there is growth. And we shouldn’t shy away from that, right? We should embrace it, to understand it, to influence it, right? Influence that growth. We have to also foster collaboration, as I mentioned, right? Try to build a diverse network and collaborate towards a [00:11:00] common goal. You talk about information, implementing that ethical technology. It’s about collaboration. It’s about understanding the impacts. To different sectors of the population, right? And then we should implement in that technology, do our best to leave an impactful legacy right in the world, because whatever it is that we as leaders in tech right now, implement downstream, there is going to be an impact could be positive or negative. And you want that legacy to be a positive legacy. So we do have to take those things into consideration when implementing and thinking about a human-centric ethical design for technology.
Paula: Love that answer. You met human-centric ethical design. Wow. And that’s why, I think is particularly important that we have women sitting on [00:12:00] those boards, sitting at that table, being able to point that out because sometimes we just need that female influence to say, Hey, this is gonna affect not just my generation, but generations to come. And it’s important.
Ann: Absolutely. And as women and men think different, right? Listen, women are from Venus, men are from Mars, right? That whole concept.
Paula: Mm-Hmm.
Ann: So we have different way of looking at things, right? And the technology, if it’s all male-centric design, you know, by the male mindset, then it leaves out the concerns of the female. And so we really, it’s important for us to be at that table. It really is important for…
Paula: it’s important. Today was reading an article about Gen Z’s who are now in a phrase. What’s the phrase I had grid zero. Where they’re deleting or hiding all the pictures that they have on the [00:13:00] Gram, because it’s like, it’s only dawned on them that publicity. I mean, these, the digital imprints are there for life, at least life as we know it now. And so, I mean, people change. Yes. Teenager may not be the same person at 20 years old or 30 years old. And those things live on the, you know, on the web.
Ann: Absolutely . And whether you’re male or female, just as a human you’re thinking about your trajectory to adulthood. The way you thought at 15 is different than what you’re going to, the way you’re going to think at 20, which is different than 30, et cetera, et cetera. Some of the actions that we took at 15, we look back now and we go, Oh my gosh, I read that. Right. And now you’ve pushed it to the web and it’s there for life. For life. And so you now go to an employer and that employer wants to look back [00:14:00] because. You know, you can dig and find things on the web, right? Now you’ve just put yourself in a precarious position where, you know, an offer for an opportunity may be rescinded because. Of something you may have posted decades ago, right? That impression that you give that individual. You know, Maya Angelou said, if someone showed you who they are, believe them. Right?
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Really? So really, you know, my 15 year old, let me say, picture of my exposing myself. Is that who I am at 30?
Paula: That’s so true. That is so true. And so, you know, that kind of puts into consideration exactly what we’re talking about. Making sure, I mean, responsible technology should start from almost… these days, it starts really from the [00:15:00] crib because I see so many parents using iPads or phones, you know, as like a babysitter, they just stick that in from the child. And then you wonder how come the children know what they’re not supposed to know.
Ann: It is so true and you know, the other day I ministered and taught because I’m a teacher at church. That’s my gift. My calling is in teaching. So I’m ordained minister with a mandate in teaching. So I’m not a preacher, you know, I always want people to be able to walk away with the word of God in their heart and with understanding. So I’m going to answer your question and kind of make a point here about just putting technology in front of your children and walking away and allowing them to do whatever they want to do, especially with AI. So there is an application, an AI application where you can [00:16:00] talk to Jesus. You can talk to the prophets. You can talk to the apostles. You can talk to the angels. You can talk.
Paula: I don’t know that I like that. Okay.
Ann: Yes. And it’s AI driven, right? So you can download this app. And there’s a premium version. You can even talk to Satan and it’s a premium version. You have to pay for that. So here, just think about it now, right? Where is the ethical and if, especially if you’re a believer in Jesus Christ, right? Where’s the ethical design for that? Because now I hand this application or this smartphone to my child. Who doesn’t have a foundation, a strong foundation, and now they’re able to talk to this AI technology and get error in their responses, right? [00:17:00] It has an impact. It has an impact. So it still goes back to the human centric aspect of who we are.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Of making sure that there’s a foundation and that the parents in the home, the mothers in the home, the leaders in the home, right? The men. Take their position in the home, leaving their family if you have a male in the home, right? But if you’re a single mother, a single parent, you have to take that responsibility to ensure that the technology that you are allowing your young ones to use has some ethics based on your cultural or social dynamics. Otherwise, that technology becomes now the parent, becomes now the God in your home.
Paula: Yes. These are very deep conversations that have to be brought out there and discussed because at the end of the day, [00:18:00] we hope, I mean, we are humans. And we hope to continue this human race and this is getting scary, I have to admit, when it seems as if control is going away from human beings and being put in these programs that are programmed by people who may, yeah, by people may or may not have the same values as the parent may have for their child.
Ann: Absolutely. Anyway, you know, I love using AI additions to my technology, right. And the work that I do, it really it can shorten your effort, right. And time that you take to do things, so like in Chat GPT or in a generative AI tools that are on your phones now, it is a great help. If you use it responsibly,
Paula: if you use it,
Ann: yes, it still requires you to think [00:19:00] what I’m finding is that even in the workplace, and I work with, again, a lot of executives and high tech people, but sometimes I find people just taking whatever the chat box gives them and republishing it. Right? They don’t take time to. Think through is it giving me accurate information? Does it make sense? So there’s a problem with that, whether it be in your home or in your workplace. It’s still a little bit of plagiarism. And as an academic person… academia, you can, there’s an issue with plagiarism. There’s nothing wrong with using the technology to spark your thinking or to give you a framework to working because personally, I, yeah, I just like starting with a blank slate. You know, why create, why recreate the wheel,
Paula: Mm-hmm.
Ann: But take that wheel and do you need to turn it one way or the other, have a conversation with it within your [00:20:00] own self or your own educational realm and research or with your counterparts, right? Use that technology to spark conversation and help you not just put your whole life and say, what it gives me is what I’m going to take. Because as you mentioned, right. Another human programmed the algorithm, even though the technology is learning by itself. But if it’s a human that has a bias and that bias is against you,
Paula: the outcome,
Ann: The outcome is going to have problems.
Paula: It’s going to have problems, yeah. Oh boy. So that brings us back again to, women in technology and women asserting their authority in the tech industry. And what we talked about a bit earlier is about women sitting at the table. Because some of these conversations… because we are human, sometimes are driven by people who haven’t [00:21:00] had the, not the human touch, but I want to say the maternal touch, the, that nurturing touch to say that, yes, this may look good on paper or good when program, but there’s a younger and very easily influenced generation coming up and we need as the responsible leaders to, put certain parameters in place.
Ann: Yes. So when a machine, even if it’s maybe AI, right, AI is going to think right and dependent on a different type of AI is going to think, but then we come back to that soul aspect of who we are that makes us different. The human versus the technology, right? The technology is not human, cannot be human, will never be human. It could be human-like, right? But there [00:22:00] is that soul within us. And for us who are believers in Jesus Christ and are saved, there is the Holy Spirit, which is in us, which is going to give us guidance and give us truth. So when we think about us as women sitting at the table, especially, and I’m really pushing for women who are believers, but by accepting Jesus Christ to be at the table during this era where there’s technology advancement, right? We need to be there to bring in that divine inspiration and that understanding of who God is.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: To truly be able to stop what could be.
Paula: Yes. Yes. [00:23:00] To stop what could be. Yes. I totally agree. And for those of you listening, you probably would have guessed by now that both ministered and myself Bible-believing-followers of Jesus Christ. And so because of that, I’m talking to other women, because this is a women’s show, for the most part, who are also Bible-believing- Christians, to know that many times we need, not to just be in church, but we need to be out there, in the marketplace, in the workplace, sitting among others who may not believe what we believe, so that they can know, and they can be guided by the truths.
Because if we are not there, if we are just in the church, we are not. We are not influencing anyone. We’re speaking to ourselves, [00:24:00] so we need to get out there. We need to sit at the table. We need to be, among, whether it’s professionally or wherever people are, not espousing, but letting the truth be known. And that is one reason I had to invite Ann on, because technology is evolving in leaps and bounds. And if we consider ourselves women of Christ. And who also are in the tech world are not at that table. It scares me to think what can happen.
Ann: Absolutely. Absolutely. In 2015, I’m thinking about 2015, the Lord said to me, walk in your authority, right? And so you have to ask, so what is that authority? And so it should be the Christ-inspired authority. When I was younger, leadership was always like a natural for me, but I shied away from it. [00:25:00] I didn’t want that responsibility. Other people would see it. But I would like that’s too much work, because leadership is responsibility and leadership is service.
Paula: Yes, it is service.
Ann: It is. So when the Lord said to me, walk in your authority, I said, I am. So right now, anybody that knows me knows that. In my secular professional world, they’re getting a believer and a leader according to the gospel. There’s no separating those, right? There’s a marketplace aspect of who we are, right? If you look back, who did Christ recruit for his apostles? They’re all business people, were they not?
Paula: They were working. Okay.
Ann: Yep. Esther assigned for a time such as this. Joseph, my book is there, right? A sign within [00:26:00] government for a time such as this and the wisdom that God gave Joseph saved the known world at that time.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: So my question is for us as women, cause we talk just as believers as a whole, but no, this is a women’s program. What is your authority in Jesus Christ? And if God were to say to you today, walk in your authority. What does that mean to you where you work right in your assignment, because what is God going to use you for to save the known world at this time, whether it be in your household, whether it be in your business, whether it be in your government sector, how is God going to use you to save others? We really need to think about that. And if it’s in technology, which is where I’m at, I then have a responsibility to have [00:27:00] the foresight that Holy Spirit would impart within me to know how to navigate this world and to then to educate my fellow believers who may not be exposed to AI, who may not be exposed to emerging technology, who may not be exposed to the things that are happening behind the scenes with this technology to be able to navigate. Joseph knew based on Pharaoh’s vision that he had or his dreams that he had, there was going to be seven years of plenty and seven years of famine. And only Joseph could interpret that dream.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: As a woman in tech. Well, how are you going to be the only one to recognize certain aspects of where the company is going, or the government is going if that’s where you are, and to be able to navigate to plan and prepare. So, I get passionate about this because,
Paula: because it’s [00:28:00] relevant.
Ann: It’s relevant.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: We have to,
Paula: we have to, we have to. Yes.
Ann: Right.
Paula: And, you know, as you talked about Joseph, we also see it with Esther. Yes, through her being there at that time, she was influenced and change actions that were not in the favor of the people that were there at that time.
Ann: Absolutely. Even Moses, Abraham.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Read Hebrews 11.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: All those people.
Paula: All those people.
Ann: Had an assignment, was walking in their authority. It just so happens that I’ve been born in this century, and tech is where my mountain is.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Where’s your mountain?
Paula: And that’s what some, something I wanted to say is that because yes, we read, that was, hundreds of [00:29:00] thousands of years ago, but human beings have not really changed. And we each have a purpose, God has a purpose and plan for each one of us, wherever he may call us, and know that when you have that purpose, you are accountable to him, to doing it, and
Ann: Yes.
Paula: Asking him to direct you.
Ann: Yes. So I’m going to… in my book, I talked about this and I’ll try to give a definition here. All right. So if I can find the script, I’m looking at my computer here. All right. So, my pastor Michael Hopel here in, in Florida, he always says some are called, some are chosen and some are sent, right? So let’s talk about what being called means. So you can kind of. Figure out where you are in your journey, [00:30:00] because if you know and understand where you are in your journey and your assignment, you’ll get a bit of understanding of what you need to do.
And if you’re in tech, you’ll understand even more. Okay. So being called by God means that we have a spiritual calling to accomplish a particular mission or ministry or role in the world. When call you’re invited, and you’re divinely selected and appointed. All that being chosen by God means that we are uniquely selected for an elevation, right? A specific task, a mission, or a role in God’s divine plan. But being sent is yet another level of assignment, right? God appoints us to the most exalted office conceivable. Those that are sent are set apart in your commission, your commission to fulfill a mission at an appointed place. So my [00:31:00] question to you as a woman leader or a leader in tech like I am, where is your appointed place that your commission, anointed and set apart to be. Joseph was commissioned as there was commission for specific place and time.
Okay, so when you’re sent to that appointed place. You are to uphold and sustain. A level of authority that God gives you and that authority is to be able to influence that place and those people and to have dominion. Okay. A lot of time as well as even as women in tech, we may sit at the table but we may not have dominion.
Paula: Yes, expand on that. [00:32:00]
Ann: Okay. When you have dominion. Let me give you an, I’ll explain by giving you an example. So, God gave me a part of my assignment in 2021 some real estate, and he said to me when I got here, and there’s a long story getting towards this he said to me, Goshen, right? So our place is called Goshen. And just as an example, Goshen was the area in Egypt where the During the time of the famine with Joseph, where his family came into Egypt for provisions and then met him, you know, the whole story. But Goshen is where Pharaoh and Joseph placed 70 people that came in and they prospered over that time and the plagues of Egypt, I think only two even affected them, but everything else [00:33:00] missed them. And it’s in Goshen where they multiplied that, but like 3 million people left. When they left Egypt out of Goshen and took all the wealth with them.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Okay.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: So here in Goshen, when I came, it was a little bit rough, right? We had grass that was higher than the tractor, which was clearing it. We had snakes, we had wild boars, we had everything. So talk about dominion. So one day I was, I stepped off the tractor and I was talking to my son. He was on the tractor. And I went to go step back. And before I step back, the Holy Spirit said to me, stop, look back. So again, we need to be tuned into the Holy Spirit to be listening because we’re going to need those instructions in these days, right? And even if you’re sitting at the tech table. You have an advantage when you have the Holy Spirit instructing [00:34:00] you on what to do. So, as I went to go step back, I looked back and there was a snake.
Paula: Oh my word.
Ann: And so I stepped aside. I didn’t know at the time it was a good snake, bad snake. Snake was just a snake to me.
Paula: It was just a snake, yes.
Ann: It was just a snake to me. But as I step back, then the snake kept on going. So in a way, the snake waited until I stepped out of his pathway before it went forward, showed me that I had dominion in that land, the snake respected me, understand who I was in that land. It was waiting. It understood who the master was. And this is the dominion that Adam had in Eden before he lost it.
Paula: Yes.
Ann: Okay. So take that now, that understanding of dominion, put it in [00:35:00] and at that table, it’s not a level of arrogance and ownership and manipulation, but it’s just having that authority that God has given you for that particular realm and area that you were sent to, assigned to, right? And when you look at, if you look in the concordance and research, the difference between like power and authority. Authority is the legal and formal right to give commands and make decisions. Do you have that authority? Versus power is potential, but authority is a legal right. So your dominion in your dominion at that table in tech, you have the God given legal right and the God given formal right to make decision. [00:36:00] When Joseph was in Egypt, Pharaoh put a ring, the signet ring on his finger. That gave him dominion. That gave him authority. That gave him the formal legal right to make decisions.
Paula: Yep. We could continue there because I’m thinking of Mordecai. I’m thinking of Esther. Same thing.
Ann: Yes.
Paula: But we will have to continue another day. This is so good. But before we go, you talked about Joseph. You’ve got a book called Joseph’s Wisdom. You recently published that.
Ann: Yes, I did about probably three months ago, something like that.
Paula: Mm, mm, mm. Yes. Can you just tell us a bit about that? Because I do know that you are online. You’re in tech, so you have to be online. But just tell us a bit about that, and then we tell people how they can get in touch with you, get the [00:37:00] book, etc. Sure.
Ann: Absolutely. So as God assigned me to Goshen and gave me an understanding that in my assignment, I am a Joseph right and understanding what is coming. Again, all prophesied word, we know we’re in the end times. We can see around us in the natural things that are happening, but that’s also things in the spiritual, right? So, the Bible, Matthew 24 tells us we’re going to have wars and rumors of wars, we’re going to have famine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, what God did, He assigned me to prepare, right?
Prepare for such a time as this. So within Joseph’s wisdom, how to survive and thrive in the era, in Goshen, in the era of the New World Order, I outlined, kind of share a little bit of my journey. I also outlined [00:38:00] Joseph and his life and the wisdom that God gave him. God has also given me some prophetic foresight that is in that book for each year up to 2032, giving me a plan as to how to mitigate some of those risks. In the book, I also educate and try to educate people as to some of the shifts that are happening because of technology, right? There’s going to be a shift in power. There’s going to be a shift in money. Okay. Do we understand what is going to happen and how do we prepare ourselves? Do we understand the mindset behind what I’m going to call the elites who are making decisions and may not be God like decisions, right? And some of the things, the thinking and strategies that there, those people up here, let me make sure we [00:39:00] can see it are making that will impact us. And some may not be good. COVID 19, and the time during COVID gave us an example of potentially the power that we gave up.
Paula: So, all of that is in the book.
Ann: Yes.
Paula: They need to buy it to find out even more
Ann: amazon. com, you can go to amazon. com and get it from amazon. com. Yes. Yes. But I think, you know, even just to understand what technology will do and how it will shift our day to day. I think it’s important for us as believers to know. Because a lot of times we are behind the scenes because this is what you’re so holy.
Paula: Yes. You’re no earthly good.
Ann: Be good.
Paula: Yes. , that’s a phrase I say all the time. We’ve got to be aware of what’s happening in the world so that you [00:40:00] can pray, so that you can ask for wisdom and how to deal with certain situations. Yes, but you’ve gotta be earthly good as well.
Ann: Absolutely.
Paula: Heavenly minded, earthly good.
Ann: Exactly.
Paula: We could talk for hours. I think we’re going to have another show because I want to talk more about you. There’s going to be a shift. And also, we got to know there’s going to be a shift even in the currency as we know it. Talk about blockchain technology. I think we’ll have to continue this on another episode, but in the interim, how can people find you online? From what they’ve heard, I’m sure a lot of people will be interested in knowing more about you and trying to get in touch with you. How can they find you online?
Ann: They can email me at info, I N F O @ genesis4510.
com. And if you’re going to read Genesis 4510 and 11, you’ll have more understanding. So you can email me there [00:41:00] and also have a website same domain genesis4510. com.
Paula: Awesome. And so again, to you, my listeners and viewers, I always say listeners because I was a podcaster before I became a TV show host. As promised, this has been another exceptional episode with an exceptional woman
Ann: Thank you.
Paula: as a guest. If you’d like to be a guest on my show, you can reach out to me on my website, the contact page. My website is chattingwithexperts. com or even better. You can connect with me on LinkedIn. I’m also on Instagram and my handle there is at chat_experts_podcast. And these days I’m more present on Facebook than I’m than I’ve ever been. Just look for Paula Okonneh. [00:42:00] Dr. Ann, I want to say thank you for,
Ann: thank you.
Paula: I wanna call this part one.
Ann: Yes.
Paula: And so we’ll continue again at another date, but thank you so much for all you shared and letting us know as believers. We have an authority, and as women in tech, we have an even greater responsibility than we probably thought before. Thank you again.
Ann: All right.