Approach Your Vision with Confidence

[00:00:00] Paula: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Chatting with the Experts with me for Clinic, the host. Every week I bring you an episode in which I showcase women from Africa and the Caribbean, who either live abroad or continue to live in the Caribbean and Africa. And what we do is at the end of the show, we ensure that you’ve learned [00:01:00] something. So it’s to empower, educate, and inspire women globally. Today is no exception to that. And I’m going to be talking with an amazing woman. And we’ll be talking about approaching your vision with confidence. We’ll talk about defining vision. We talk about reaching our goals by unleashing the superpowers in our minds. And we talk about setting up success and even more. Because it’s early in the year and we know most of us start off the new year with many goals, but come spring, typically our goals change between the first of January, and sometimes by the end of January. So today my guest is Alicia Couri, and she is going to be talking to you about how to change that. With that, I want to welcome Alicia [00:02:00] to Chatting With the Experts.
[00:02:04] Alicia: Thank you so much, Paula, for inviting me to come back into your space in front of your tribe. It’s always an honor and a pleasure to hang with you.
[00:02:16] Paula: And I always enjoy talking with you, there’s no exception.
[00:02:20] Alicia: Thank you.
[00:02:22] Paula: We talked about vision.
[00:02:23] Paula: Tell us… before we go on to that, tell us a bit about yourself.
[00:02:27] Alicia: Oh, sure. My name is Alisa Couri. I am the founder and CEO of Audacious Concepts, Inc. and Red Carpet CEO. With Audacious Concepts Inc., we focus on the corporate market space where we help leaders and teams work better together by assessing strengths of the individual and looking at the strengths of the team and how they can really work together. We reduce friction. We reduce conflict by understanding these different parts of the mind and helping our clients understand each [00:03:00] other well so that you work in your zone of genius and not against your grain. So that’s really what we do on that side. And then I’m a podcast producer and host web show producer and host as well on the red carpet CEO side. And we sometimes help people with their personal brand when needed. So that’s what we do.
[00:03:21] Paula: That’s why I say she’s multi-talented.
[00:03:24] Alicia: Thank you. Absolutely. I keep a lot of plates spinning.
[00:03:29] Paula: Say that again.
[00:03:30] Alicia: I keep a lot of plates spinning.
[00:03:33] Paula: That’s why you’re good. And that’s why, as I mentioned earlier, I enjoy our conversations. Always do. So what are we going to be talking about today?
[00:03:43] Alicia: Today, we’re talking about vision with confidence. Having confidence to actually complete the vision that you have, because sometimes we have a vision, we have a goal. And it could be five years, 10 years down the road, or it could be just for this year. And [00:04:00] what I want to share with you is how can you get to that goal, confidently by applying your superpowers, like what are your innate strengths that you can lean upon to help you get to the finish line of that goal? And it’s not like Paula said in the intro, by the end of January, things have gone to the wayside. Goals, everything, your resolutions, your commitments, everything, because they weren’t sustainable for you because they didn’t align with your strengths.
[00:04:34] Paula: If I set a goal, so we talk about innate strengths. Let’s expand on that. Is it like self-confidence? Is that?
[00:04:42] Alicia: No, innate strengths are different. They’re what you were born with. So our brain is wired for certain things. The way that I do things and the way that you do things are different based on how our brains were wired to accomplish. So this is [00:05:00] not about your belief system. This is not about your mindset. This is not about your subconscious programming. This is actually how we were wired from birth for success. And we do different assessments to help uncover or expose those strengths.
[00:05:19] Alicia: So sometimes we have this kind of inkling, we have this feeling about our strengths. We think we know what we’re good at, quote-unquote, what we’re good at, but giving language to that, giving like what that really means what that encompasses, what that, that strength allows you to do, is not always a conscious revelation to us. Some people, their natural talent, they may have a natural talent for singing and we could see that. But there are some strengths that we have that [00:06:00] are innate to us like that talent, but we can’t really recognize it as a strength, and many times we’ve been told it’s actually a weakness and we try to suppress it when it is actually a strength of ours.
[00:06:21] Paula: How do we go about doing that?
[00:06:25] Alicia: Uncovering them and finding out what your strength is?
[00:06:29] Paula: Yeah.
[00:06:30] Alicia: First, let me tell you a story, and one of the things that I am most passionate about, because I’ll tell you one of my passions. One thing I’m most passionate about is helping people grow their confidence, because I believe everybody should have some audacious confidence within them. That unshakable belief in themselves that’s so bold and so brave that they will step out, even despite fear, past failures, and [00:07:00] go after their dreams.
[00:07:01] Alicia: So when we’re looking at your strengths, I’ll tell you a story about my strength and how I was able to not just re-imagine it but reframe it from a weakness because my whole life I’ve been told that’s not how I should be. That’s not the way it should be. So one of my strengths is in seeing the big picture, like I know where I’m going. I could see the big picture. I can see it down the road where I need to be. Something that is not a strength of mine is focusing on the details of that. So I could see the big picture. And in that vision for the big picture that I have that I’m really good at being that visionary and seeing the big picture is that I was called a daydreamer. I was told that I couldn’t concentrate on [00:08:00] one thing. Like you need to do one thing.
[00:08:02] Alicia: Why can’t you just sit down and do the one thing? No, because I see the world in a bigger way. So I see all these different things that need to be done to get to where I want to go. So I’m not going to focus on one thing. Hence I have two businesses, right? I can see all these different pieces. And so they say I have Bright Shiny Object Syndrome. I can never finish anything. I’m a great starter, but I can never finish because my strength is in the starting. My strength is to initiate things and get it going because I see where it’s going down the road and then move to the next thing and have people around me that can fill in and start working on the details of that plan. But I didn’t understand that and I didn’t know that for a long time. So I was frustrating myself. Trying to be what everybody says I should be, which is you got to pay attention to the details and you got to do it this way and you can [00:09:00] only have success doing it this way. And so that really frustrated me.
[00:09:06] Alicia: And it didn’t just frustrate me, it created stress within my brain that I didn’t even know was happening. Now, when I started working with assessment, so I’m certified in two different assessment tools, Kolbe, which is a cognitive assessment, and an affective assessment, which is in predictive index, which I use for work. But when I did it myself, it was like the heavens opened, the clouds parted, angels sang. It’s no, this is what you’re, this is who you are. Stop fighting it. One of my favorite quotes by Albert Einstein is everyone’s a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its entire life believing it’s stupid.
[00:09:51] Alicia: That’s what I was. I was that fish trying to climb a tree, not realizing I belong in the water. And when I did some of these assessments, it’s here’s [00:10:00] the water, jump in. So yeah, so that’s how we can take something that you’re frustrated trying so hard to do. That’s really burning you out and help you understand how you’re naturally wired, instinctively wired. And then let’s build upon that. and lean into those strengths instead of fighting against it.
[00:10:26] Paula: I love that. So you mentioned two assessments. The Kolbe and the other one…
[00:10:36] Alicia: predictive index. Kolbe and predictive index. So we have three different parts of our mind. We have the cognitive, which most people have heard about, you get IQ tested in your cognitive mind that’s in, in the prefrontal cortex. So you have your cognitive mind, that’s your knowledge, your skills, your thinking. How you think to problem solve. [00:11:00] And then we have the affective mind, which is in the limbic part of the brain, and that is our personality. People say that’s our feelings. That’s what we like or don’t like our preferences, our motivations.
[00:11:14] Alicia: So that’s what most people see when they do assessments. A lot of them are affective assessments. It’s measuring our personality and whether our personality gets along with another personality. And then there’s the conative part of the mind, which is also in that executive function, like the cognitive. But it’s a different part of the mind that really measures your instinct for taking action. How do you do things naturally in the way your brain was wired for success? For instance, like I said earlier, my brain is wired to jump in and start something. Let’s get it going. Someone else’s brain might be wired with let’s first get all the information [00:12:00] that we can get from this. Let’s dig into the details of this before we actually take action. Someone else might, their brain might be wired to say, you know what, we need to build a plan. We need a plan before we take action. We can’t just jump in and take action. Let’s build a plan. And someone else’s brain might be I need a working prototype.
[00:12:21] Alicia: I need to actually see how this is going to work before we decide to do it on a larger scale. So our brains are wired very differently for success. And if we don’t understand each other’s wiring, then I’m expecting you to do things the way I want you to do it. And I’m frustrating you and that’s how conflict starts happening because I expect you to do it my way without any real conscious thought about maybe I don’t do things your way and I have my own way of doing things. And so that’s the different assessments. So predictive index kind [00:13:00] of jumps into that cognitive and affective side and Kolbe does the conative side.
[00:13:07] Paula: Wow. Awesome. So now coming to defining, like you talked about goals. And these tests, how do we go about defining our goals and our visions using these systems?
[00:13:20] Alicia: Oh so first of all what I was doing at the beginning, the end of last year, because this is the first time it dawned on me. I’m the idea girl, right? It dawned on me as I was going back and I was like, what was successful in 2023 for me? What was really successful last year? And how am I planning out my year for 2024 to have even more success? And when I looked back at the things that I was doing that really brought success to me, it was within those strengths. So I thought, okay, maybe we can help people align their vision to their strengths instead of [00:14:00] here’s my vision. This is what I want to do and then fight their way to get there. And sometimes that’s why we give up halfway through or even by the end of January, give up because it just seems like such a burden because we haven’t understood yet. Our role in the vision, what is it that we need and what is it that we need to get support around to help us get to that next level within our vision, and we try to do it all, all on our own.
[00:14:30] Alicia: That’s how to look at aligning your vision to your strengths. What do you want to accomplish? What is that big vision that you have? What is the why behind that big vision? Like, why do you want to accomplish that vision? What is the reason for it? And then once we do that, then we can start backtracking and seeing, okay, here you are. This is your vision here. What strengths do you bring to the table? And then where can we now look for support? So that [00:15:00] you’re actually proactively looking for how to continue to get your vision down the road instead of holding it all on your own and then getting frustrated and letting it go.
[00:15:12] Paula: So I know that’s great. But I know before we came on camera, we talked about vision, but you gave an acronym for something.
[00:15:20] Alicia: Yes. I have an acronym for Vision . Yes. Because I’m. I’m working on helping entrepreneurs and other individuals, whether you’re an entrepreneur or you’re working in a company, I feel so passionate about helping them connect the two. Now that I’ve connected the two for myself, I’m like, yes, this is what I need to do help you connect the two. So the acronym for vision is values, instincts, strengths, innovation, operation, like how do you operate? And then how do you nurture that vision to [00:16:00] the end? Like I said, I’m the person who gets everything started. I get it started, but that nurture piece to the end, that’s what was always missing for me. How do I actually nurture that vision to the end? So that was the acronym that I felt would help support visionaries and people who have a lot of dreams. And we need to take action on it and I have an acronym for action too.
[00:16:26] Paula: Oh, let’s hear that one.
[00:16:27] Alicia: Yeah, once we’ve developed your vision, using these tools, then we need to take action. And action is how do we now activate conscious thoughts into outcomes now. So many things, yeah, how, because so many things are in our subconscious. So many things we’re unaware of, even our strengths are subconscious. We know that, yeah, I could do that. [00:17:00] Because when people tell you, Oh my God, you’re so good at this. And you’re like, yeah.
[00:17:06] Paula: You take it for granted.
[00:17:07] Alicia: That’s what it’s like. Because it’s easy for you because it’s natural. It’s easy. And so you’re like, yeah, but you haven’t taken the time to unpack. What did I really do that they think is so amazing? So identifying your strengths is pulling it from the subconscious into conscious thoughts. So now you’re consciously activating this and it’s not just moving through doing this stuff, without any awareness that you’re actually doing it and having success with it.
[00:17:41] Paula: And, as you said, when you’re aware of that strength, then you can take it to greater heights because now you know…
[00:17:47] Alicia: that you develop it.
[00:17:50] Paula: There’s a passion for it. And my daughter was saying to me that if… it’s just talking about parenting and saying, if your child loves the [00:18:00] arts. Encourage them because they wake up in the morning and they’re excited about art, as opposed to say, no, you will be an engineer.
[00:18:06] Alicia: Exactly. We need to nurture those interests because even if… because kids are still trying to find their way. So they might be interested in a billion different things and then drop it. So that was me. I was interested in a lot of things and that’s the visionary part of me. I was always excited to do the next thing. And my mother and father got really frustrated with me because they’re like, Oh, but you never finish anything. You never finish anything. And I was told at five years old that I couldn’t do gymnastics because I quit everything, but I was very passionate about it.
[00:18:44] Alicia: And not only was I passionate about it, I was good. I grew up in Australia at the time. I was in Australia and my PE teacher was telling me that I should do gymnastics because I’m tumbling all over the place. You’re running, jumping, tumbling, you’re climbing up on stuff, [00:19:00] you should really. Your parents should think about putting you in gymnastics. And I remember being all excited and going to my parents say, I want to do gymnastics and they’re like, no, you quit everything. I’m like, I looking back at that, I’m like, I was five years old. How many things did I quit? And I had a reputation for quitting.
[00:19:18] Alicia: But I understand there was money involved and there were other things and their time and money. As a child, you don’t understand until you become an adult that there’s time and money involved in these things. And that was probably more of the why behind it, than I quit everything, but putting it on me made it easier for them. And I have no shade. I’m not throwing any shade at my parents. That’s the generation. That’s how we grew up. Yep. I was told if I wanted roller skates. Prove to me that you could skate before I go buy roller skates for you. I had to borrow a friend’s roller skate and practice and learn how to roller skate. I had to borrow a friend’s bicycle and show them I could ride a [00:20:00] bike before I could get a bicycle because I quit everything, right? Because they didn’t understand how to nurture my strengths.
[00:20:07] Paula: Alright. So you know, we’re talking now about approaching your vision with confidence. So from what I’m hearing from you is that once your innate strengths have been identified, then your confidence goes alongside with that because now you’re able to understand consciously what you are good at and then you can go out into the world or doing that, whatever it is with gusto and with a confident that you are going to get it done because it comes naturally to you.
[00:20:39] Alicia: Exactly. When we align people with their subconscious commitments, their productivity just goes higher. Because again, this cognitive part of your mind is subconscious until you’re aware of it. And when you’re aware of it it’s something that, you’re going to do anyway. It’s not something like [00:21:00] if you’re someone whose brain operates in patterns and organizing. We know that you’re going to do that anyway, so why not put you in a place or in a role where there’s a lot of patterning, there’s a lot of process involved. But if your brain does not adapt well to process, in fact, it’s quite the opposite. Why would you, we put you in a position of doing process work every single, things that have to be in a process every single day.
[00:21:32] Alicia: That’s going to frustrate you. And there were certain jobs, like my brain doesn’t work specifically within process. And I remember one of my first jobs was very process-oriented. And it was in billing for the electric company back in Trinidad. And every day I had to do the exact same things in the morning. It was the exact thing. And then lunch, go to lunch and then [00:22:00] come back. And the afternoon was the exact repeat of the morning. I wanted to pull my hair out every day. And you’re like in a room with everybody in their desk and everybody’s doing the same thing every day. That was not space for me.
[00:22:17] Alicia: When I left that, I became a flight attendant. That was the space for me because every day was different, right? You’re jumping out, you’re going on a flight, all the passengers, every, even they, even though I was doing the same job as a flight attendant, you’re meeting different people. You’re getting to interact differently. You’re getting to do things differently, you’re going to a different country. There was a lot of change involved in that, and that really fed me. But I didn’t understand that was why.
[00:22:47] Paula: So now we’ve identified that working with your strengths is the best way to approach growth success in the world. So you’re the tools that you talked about, and you’re [00:23:00] going to, I know the first one’s Kolbe. Yeah. Second one.
[00:23:03] Alicia: Predictive index. So Kolbe is K O L B E, if anybody’s looking it up, Kolbe and predictive index.
[00:23:11] Paula: Yeah. So now these are the tools that you use to help clients and businesses and organizations…
[00:23:18] Alicia: with the individuals
[00:23:20] Paula: and individuals. Yeah. Figure out what the inner strengths are. Correct?
[00:23:27] Alicia: Correct. Yes. And within that comes communication. How do we communicate out of those strengths? Because each person communicates differently based on those strengths as well. And so when we understand that, we can understand why we’re having miscommunication or even conflict sometimes with someone. That’s happening over and over again. When we measure the strengths and we look at different parts of the strengths and we’re like, okay, this is where that conflict is coming from. This is why you’re having that conflict and here’s how we can work around that. [00:24:00]
[00:24:00] Paula: Okay. As you’re talking about that, I know I’ve had some guests that have conflict…
[00:24:04] Alicia: resolution.
[00:24:05] Paula: Yeah. Now do you work hand in hand with people like that or not?
[00:24:11] Alicia: No, with people who do conflict resolution?
[00:24:13] Paula: Yes.
[00:24:14] Alicia: No, a lot of conflict resolution experts were most likely are handling conflict from the affect. They’re handling conflict from a mindset perspective and giving you the tools to navigate conflict from that perspective. I come at conflict from a different perspective, not so much from just the affect, from your feelings, from you hurt my feelings, you need to talk differently to me and not from that aspect. But from the mind, what’s going on in your mind? And how innately, because there are just certain innate things that rub [00:25:00] against each other. For instance, like I said, if I’m not process-oriented and you are process-oriented, anytime there’s anything to do with process, we’re going to have a problem because I’m not going to do things the way that you need them done. Because my brain just doesn’t see process that way. And we’re always going to frustrate each other. And when people understand that there’s that natural inclination for that frustration, then they can consciously write action. They can take action consciously to build a bridge between that and say, instead of someone who in conflict resolution will probably say, they’ll give you tools about hearing one another. When you do, this is how I feel and talk it out with each other versus the way I handle conflict when I know there’s that natural inclination [00:26:00] for that conflict.
[00:26:02] Alicia: And I show that to both parties because you are this, this is how you see process. Because you’re this is how you see process, and you’re naturally going to have that friction. How about this? When you have to do process work and you need the person who is not process-oriented to do it, give them more time. Because they need more time to do it, make it super simple. You can’t give them like a linear 20-step process to complete because you do it simply, it’s easy for you to do, but you really now have to break that down for them because their brain is going to skip over certain things. Because they just don’t see it the same way. So it’s not an attack against you. It’s not something personal against you. It’s just that their brain just doesn’t see it that way. And so you have to have a little bit more compassion [00:27:00] in helping them through that process. And the person who doesn’t do process has to also understand, okay, my brain doesn’t look at that way.
[00:27:08] Alicia: So cognitively now, how can I shift from my cognitive instinct and cognitively build a skill to help me do this process. But again, it has to be done. You have to give them more time to do it and you have to give them grace when they mess up because their brain is literally not seeing it the same way. That’s why sometimes conflict resolution can backfire because they say, but they keep doing it. They keep, I’m trying to get them to, but they keep doing it. It’s because their brain actually doesn’t see it the same way that your brain does.
[00:27:48] Paula: I get it now. So they are not addressing the source. You’re…
[00:27:52] Alicia: not addressing the source of where that conflict could be coming from. Exactly. And again, no [00:28:00] shade because it’s brilliant tools that you can use. And it’s again, bringing conscious awareness affectively through emotional intelligence. How do I deal with this? Let’s take marriage. For instance, people who are married Because we do this work. Actually, I was thinking of doing something for Valentine’s Day for couples on this very topic because sometimes they’re wired differently and so you hear couples say he always or he’s always doing this and the other couple is saying yeah but you never. And when I hear words like that, it’s okay, there’s probably a wiring difference in there. That they’re tripping over that they’re not aware of.
[00:28:47] Paula: That’s the way, we talked about setting up for success. So that we set up…
[00:28:52] Alicia: for understanding of how your brain is wired and set you up for greater success in relationships, in your [00:29:00] business, in how you handle your kids. And I’d say in every area of your life in general, because even at planning vacations, I talked to this couple and one is like, when they plan vacations, one is very detailed. They research everything. They have a plan. They have every day mapped out, a schedule of what we’re doing every day, and the other one is ah, we’ll just go with the flow. So they’re not following your system, and inevitably, there is, oh!
[00:29:30] Alicia: Why can’t you just, this is the schedule. Why can’t we just stick to the schedule? You just want to go do what you, whatever you want to do. And I have a schedule and then there’s that conflict that’s happening without realizing their brain is wired for process and information and the other one’s brain is wired for, let’s just go there and have fun. Let’s just jump in and do, and whatever happens. And so when they have that understanding now that this is what’s happening, they get to now design their vacation [00:30:00] where each person’s need is satisfied. So maybe one day we do everything that you plan to do, and another day we just go with the flow and do it my way.
[00:30:10] Alicia: And so everybody’s need. And then you can say, you know what, the person who’s that process-oriented, you book the flights, you take care of all that stuff, because I’m trash when you have to do that kind of stuff. It’s I get airports wrong and I get, cause, like, I don’t have that, my brain just doesn’t see that level. It’s a lot of mental energy for me to dig into that level of detail all the time. So, yeah, I get things wrong and when I do, it’s okay, it’s an adventure, let’s see where we can go from here. Let’s problem-solve our way out of this one.
[00:30:48] Paula: Yeah, I love what you’re doing. I love because then in that case, let’s take individuals. If I know exactly how my brain operates, and you know how your brain operates, then before we even start on any [00:31:00] project, we know how to approach it. Because we look at it and we’re like, Oh, this is too process-oriented for me. So you do it.
[00:31:08] Alicia: Yeah, you take over. I know where your role in this project is and I know what my role is in this project. So we have clear lines, we have clarity. Clear lines of what my responsibility is and what your responsibility is and then things don’t overlap where I thought you were going to do that. No, I thought you were going to do that. Because I understand where my strengths belong, and you understand where your strengths belong, and if there’s a gap, we find someone to fill that gap.
[00:31:36] Paula: Love it. I love what you’re doing.
[00:31:38] Alicia: Thank you.
[00:31:38] Paula: We could talk about this forever.
[00:31:39] Alicia: I know, forever. Yeah.
[00:31:42] Paula: Because it’s so interesting.
[00:31:44] Alicia: I do have that vision workshop, that two-day virtual retreat. If anyone’s interested, I know whenever this airs, hopefully it’s still, coming up. But if not, they could still reach out to me to find out more about how to connect their strengths to their vision [00:32:00] and to what they want to do.
[00:32:01] Paula: And I think this is a good time. I’m definitely going to air this. Because when it’s relevant, because we talked about, setting up these goals on January 1st and by January 29th, we wouldn’t even say 31st. It’s already been trashed and ended in the bin.
[00:32:19] Alicia: Time for a new goal.
[00:32:20] Paula: Yes. February.
[00:32:24] Alicia: Yeah, but it doesn’t have to be hard once we understand how we’re wired for success.
[00:32:31] Paula: Okay, great. So you’re going to be doing a two-day workshop. When’s that going to be?
[00:32:36] Alicia: It’s March 30th and 30 March. Sorry, January. See, I’m already in March. January 30th and 31st.
[00:32:42] Paula: Okay, January 31st, 30th and 31st.
[00:32:45] Alicia: Yes, two days, three hours each day. And it’s 197, which includes the strengths, the Cognitive Strengths assessment. So once you sign up, we’ll send you a link to take that Cognitive Assessment [00:33:00] because that’s what we’re going to work through. We’re going to understand those instincts, those instinctive strengths, so that will help you when we get to the planning side. Design that plan.
[00:33:12] Paula: I love it. And for those who are probably going to view this after it’s passed, how else can they get in touch with you?
[00:33:18] Alicia: So they can go to Alicia360. com. A L I C I A 360. com. I’m on that platform. They can reach out to me on multiple, in multiple ways. They could WhatsApp me. They could text. email just please no random phone calls or random video calls from social media. I don’t answer random calls, but text me or WhatsApp me. You’ll have my email there. You’ll also have every social media platform that I’m on. You can link to me on from Alicia360. com. If you want to know more either for yourself individually or for your organization how we [00:34:00] can come in and help you identify those strengths. I’ll be happy to, me and my team will be happy to walk you guys through that.
[00:34:07] Paula: It’s simply amazing. Thank you so much, Alicia. I’ve learned so much from just listening to you.
[00:34:13] Alicia: Thank you.
[00:34:14] Paula: I say it chatting with the experts is for women typically who are from Africa, the Caribbean who now live abroad or live in Africa and the Caribbean and their offspring. And yeah, and our goal is always to empower, inspire and educate women globally.
[00:34:35] Alicia: Oh, and
[00:34:36] Paula: Go ahead.
[00:34:38] Alicia: They can watch my show.
[00:34:39] Paula: Oh, yes.
[00:34:40] Alicia: You can go subscribe to my YouTube channel, Alicia Couri, and watch Unleash Your Audacious Confidence. Yay.
[00:34:47] Paula: Yay. There’s no excuse not to find out more about what you’re doing, because even if you miss the workshop. You’re live. You’re online. You have all these different avenues in which they can find you.
[00:34:59] Alicia: Yes. [00:35:00] Thank you. Thank you so much, Paula.
[00:35:01] Paula: Absolutely. And for those of you who have enjoyed what you heard, you can reach out to me on my website, which is chatting with the experts. com or you can connect with me on LinkedIn. Just search for Paula Okonneh. Oh, on Instagram my handle there is at chat_experts_podcast. Cause I’d love to talk with you, Alicia. This has been fantastic. Thank you. Thank you again.
[00:35:32] Alicia: You’re welcome. Thank you.